FeedUK Muslim leader Muhammad Abdul Bari doesn’t get it!
Saturday, November 10 2007
The leader of the Muslim Council of Britain has given / been interviewed by The Daily Telegraph.
He just does not get it - he asking the British society to change to Islamic standards rather the urging to Muslim community to fit in better with the British society.
He implies that the UK society could be like the 1930s Nazi with “people’s minds can be poisoned”. This makes me angry (maybe his intention) and it is one of the worst insults that can be said about the British. The British stood up and fought the oppression of the Nazi domination. The cost in both lives and financial burden were enormous. If Britain had not won - you, Dr Bari, would not be allowed in Europe and certainly not be allowed to exercise Free Speech or Islam.
I honestly believe that the British society has been very accommodating non-British culture - all that is expected is that UK laws are being followed. Is that so damn hard?
He goes on to say:
Everybody can learn from everyone. Some of the Muslim principles can help social cohesion - family, marriage, raising children with boundaries, giving to the poor, not being too greedy
Sounds good at first look, doesn’t it? BUT this is not just “Muslim principal” it is implying that no other faith or society have these principals. Also, where is the tolerance for the non-traditional families and the homosexuals? No promotion of diversity either. As for giving to the poor, the Islamic states have massive oil resources that brings in huge incomes … how much are these states giving to the poor in their own countries? Or the problems in Africa? Or the UN?
This is another quote far away from enlightenment:
Dr Bari believes Britain would benefit from a little more morality: “Religion has principles that can help society … Sex before marriage is unacceptable in Islam … On adultery and living together we should try to go back to the religiously informed style of life that helps society”
I do not think for a minute (or a second) that they live as they practice. There are already Islamic States and if these ‘benefits’ are so superior - then why not move there? Like the Western values and comfort too much?
Abortion should also be made more difficult. “By the time a foetus is 12 weeks old our religion says that the child has got a spirit.” Homosexuality is “unacceptable from the religious point of view”.
Is stoning ever justified? “It depends what sort of stoning and what circumstances,” he replies.
Abortion is legal (up to 24 weeks?) and should remain so! Respect the UK laws - they are based on medical facts and voters opinions. And homosexuals are humans too (!!) and with this statement he does not give them the same respect as he ask for himself for being Muslim. Stoning? Yeah let’s mob mentality rule (sarcasm).
The benefit of a free society is that Dr Bari can say what he thinks, very nice freedom isn’t it? Should really be implemented in whole world! He agenda seems to be to restrict the British society rather then to make the Islamic part of the world more free.
November 10th, 2007 at 23:40
It’s about time we stopped pussyfooting around with these radical Muslins.
Instead of giving in to them inch by inch, we must take a stand.
You hit it on the head lizzie,rather than try to change our way of life, they should be encouraged to retiurn to a Muslin state.
If encouragement doesn’t work, forced repatriation is the answer.
November 11th, 2007 at 0:53
My values tells me that when you are living in another country - short or long term - you have to respect that country’s culture & laws. Common sense, right?
Unless there is an agenda behind all of this. Their reasoning and actions seems to suggest there is something more to it all.
In the article this man goes on to say that these suicide bomber are vulnerable “people” (they stop being people to me when they are planning to do a suicide try) but they have nothing to do with Islam. How does he know they are vulnerable and victims unless his organisation has been contact with them?
Any problems with these ‘vulnerable’ murders - they are dealing with this via their Elderly system rather then to contact the UK police. No respect for the UK laws!
Also an odd thing on the Daily Telegraph article, there was comments on it (mine included) and now they are gone.
November 11th, 2007 at 7:43
I you hit the nail on the head with that post =)
If people do not like the UK system they are more than welcome to go live somewhere else.
November 20th, 2007 at 19:59
There was an article somewhere stating that 70% of the Brits (not sure if it was London or the whole of England) felt that the Muslims make a positive contribution to the economy.. that may be so until they decide that they want England to become a Sharia State..
Of course, people need to abide by the laws of their host country, not vice versa.. if they love Sharia so much move to Iran.
And people need to stop being so accomodating or we’re all going to be living under Sharia.. if they have their way.